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[hts-users:03347] Re: About getf0 and cmp data =?iso-2022-jp?b?ZmlsZRskQiEpGyhC?=


Hi,

Do you use SPTK-3.5?
Anyway, please let me know the number of *samples* of your raw file.

Regards,
Keiichiro Oura


2012/6/9 ArthurLeo <bin007.zhao@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
> Thank you very much for detail answer, here is the further question:
> 1.  Now assuming the F0 is 200Hz, acctually, the f0 can be varied from 60Hz
> to 400Hz generally, so even if  5ms waveform  added to the head, the first
> frame also can not be located the start time of the raw file certainly.
> is it?
>
> 2.  From the attached illustration, the mgc file should have the same frames
> as the raw file, but in my test, the mgc file have less two frames than the
> raw file,
> is it abnormal?
>
>> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:43:40 +0900
>> From: tokuda@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [hts-users:03344] Re: [hts-users:03342] RE: [hts-users:03341] Re:
>> About getf0 and cmp data file?
>> To: hts-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> CC: tokuda@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> > 1. yes, I guess, but I am not sure about the snack a lgorithm of getting
>
>> > pitch, so I wander to know why the 5ms/25ms, not other length?
>>
>> We add 5ms to the file head in order to adjust the positions of "frame
>> center"
>> assuming the extracted F0 is always 200Hz.
>>
>> See the attached illustration.
>>
>> Keiichi
>>
>>
>> 2012/6/9 ArthurLeo <bin007.zhao@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>> > 1. yes, I guess, but I am not sure about the snack algorithm of getting
>> > pitch, so I wander to know why the 5ms/25ms, not other length?
>> >
>> > 2. My raw file have 3104 frames,16k sample rate, FRAMELEN =
>> > 400 FRAMESHIFT=80 FFTLEN=512 WINDOWTYPE =1 FREQWARP=0.42 GAMMA=0
>> > MGCORDER=20, but after mgc analysis, the mgc file have less two frames
>> > (3102
>> > frames) , and the lf0 file have the same number frames(3104) with the
>> > original speech raw file , maybe because of the added head/tail. when
>> > the< br>> > stage using the sptk tool merge function to compose the cmp
>> > file,mgc file
>
>> > inserted
>> > the lf0 file,so the final cmp file have the same frames with mgc file
>> > not
>> > the lf0 file,and lf0 file two more frames at the tail were discarded
>> > directly.
>> > So I was confused, and want to know the detail reason. is it reasonable?
>> >> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 00:08:44 +0900
>> >> From: uratec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> Subject: [hts-users:03341] Re: About getf0 and cmp data file?
>> >
>> >> To: hts-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> CC: uratec@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> > 1. Why added 5ms/25ms waveform to head/tail? why not other length,
>> >> > like
>> >> > 10ms head or the 5ms tail? I guess it must have some special reason,
>> >> > I
>> >> > read
>> >> > the getf0.tcl. the default minpitch/maxpitch for speech is 60/400Hz,
>> >> > so if the autocorrelation method is generally used to caculate the
>> >> > first
>> >> > frame pitch, it should be added (1/60)s=16.7ms waveform for the head
>> >> > at
>> >> > least, but now the number is 5ms/25ms, so can you explain more
>> >> > detail?
>> >>
>> >> Do you mean that the lower F0 limit affect the number of generated F0
>> >> frames?
>> >> When I changed the lower F0 limit, the number of generated F0 frames
>> >> were not changed.
>> >>
>> >> > 2. I checked the *.mgc file, it always have less two frames than the
>> >> > *.raw
>> >> > file, so my question is the discarded two frames is the raw file head
>> >> > two
>> >> > frame or the raw file tail frame ?
>> >>
>> >> It's strange.
>> >> Please, let me know the number of samp les of your raw file, command
>
>> >> lines of mgc analysis, and the number of generated mgc frames,
>> >> respectively.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Keiichiro Oura
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2012/6/8 ArthurLeo <bin007.zhao@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>> >> > Thank you for your answer, but I have some further questions about
>> >> > the
>> >> > details of the lf0 and mgc parameter extraction.
>> >> > 1. Why added 5ms/25ms waveform to head/tail? why not other length,
>> >> > like
>> >> > 10ms head or the 5ms tail? I guess it must have some special reason,
>> >> > I
>> >> > read
>> >> > the getf0.tcl. the default minpitch/maxpitch for speech is 60/400Hz,
>> >> > so if the autocorrelation method is generally used to caculate the
>> >> > first
>> >> > frame pitch, it should be added (1/60)s=16.7ms waveform for the head
>> >> > at
>> > > > least, but now the number is 5ms/25ms, so can you explain more
>> > > > detail?
>> >> >
>> >> > 2. I checked the *.mgc file, it always have less two frames than the
>> >> > *.raw
>> >> > file, so my question is the discarded two frames is the raw file head
>> >> > two
>> >> > frame or the raw file tail frame ?
>> >> >
>> >> > &gt ; Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 09:01:56 +0900
>> >> >> From: uratec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> Subject: [hts-users:03339] Re: About getf0 and cmp data file?
>> >> >> To: hts-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> CC: uratec@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The number of frames generated by Snack (in ActiveTcl) is often
>> >> >> lower
>> >> >> than the number of frames generated by SPTK.
>> >> &g t;> The internal frame calculation is different between Snack and
>> >> SPTK.
>> >
>> >> >> Therefore, 5ms/25ms waveform are added to head/tail of the utterance
>> >> >> before f0 analysis in the HTS demo script.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> Keiichiro Oura
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2012/6/7 ArthurLeo <bin007.zhao@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>> >> >> > Hi all,
>> >> >> > When I prepared the cmp data for training, I found that the *.lf0
>> >> >> > file
>> >> >> > always have two more frames than the *.mgc file, and they are
>> >> >> > extracted
>> >> >> > from
>> >> >> > the same *.raw file. So I checked the ./data/makefile,and I foun d
>> >> & gt;> > the
>
>> >> >> > *.raw
>> >> >
>> >> >> > file were added the 0.5ms head data and the 25ms tail data,I guess
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > maybe
>> >> >> > the reason,but I don not know why do this?why add the head and t
>> >> >> > he
>> >> >> > tail?
>> >
>> >> >> > why
>> >> >> > 0.5ms and 25ms,not others? Can some one known about it? when
>> >> >> > composing
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > lf0 and mgc with the SPTK tool merge function,how deal with the
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > extra
>> >> >> > lf0 frame? discarded directly?
>> >> >>
>> >>

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